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Steve Adams's avatar

It's got to be both. Entropy *and* ectropy. Right? Yin and yang. Order finds disorder which finds order etc. and all over again. I wouldn't have even had to consider this, and it shocking to me that smarter people than me do (not thinking about you, Krista, though you may be smarter).

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SleepyHollow, inK.'s avatar

Yes I agree, and it seems obvious and not only spiritual but realistic to have both. So then I was surprised by the fundamental pessimism of science--when it's grounded by such elegant and organized things as math!--that the ultimate trajectory they favor is still only disorder. It's a bit disheartening! Maybe we need a movement to embrace ectropy.

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